Curse

fenix · Oct 24, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20

You know how there's always those players who have LOTS of trouble with a zone, and post about it? Like the EOTN section of guru, how they can never beat something, or they barely beat it? And they ALWAYS complain about how hard it is, and then other people join in and agree, when in fact it ISN'T hard?

THAT is who uses PvX wiki. Those people.

seekjy · Oct 24, 2007, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Every build that can be invented – has already been invented.

strcpy · Oct 24, 2007, 05:58 AM // 05:58

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Originally Posted by Age

Who uses it or get most their build from there a.All the Time,b.Some What,c.Only Research,d.Never

How about "all of that"?

For the heroes of classes I rarely play they normally run something from there.

For classes I play quite a bit I mostly use my own builds but I would say that looking through PvX Wiki the vast vast majority of them are named builds or a named build + variant (I always find it interesting to notice that something I came up on my own is a "cookie cutter" build). Sometimes I will notice a build that I had never really thought of and will give them a whirl - since there are a few classes that I rarely play I am not terribly familiar with their skills for use as a secondary. Though I normally change them to better suit my needs.

About the only thing I pretty much take carbon copy from them is farming builds. More often than not those are highly specific in both build *and* run leaving little room to play around. If they make the "good" or "great" category chances are they *are* that and I just use them, though if I make a change I think works better I use it. I also use the farming forum here in the same way.

I see no reason to re-invent the wheel nor do I see any particular reason to throw out a good idea because it is on a web page someplace. While I certainly understand why some enjoy re-inventing the wheel (I sure do sometimes, though I see it as no better or worse than copying it) I find the latter to be stupid.

DarkGanni · Oct 24, 2007, 06:12 AM // 06:12

When I stepped in PvX Wiki first thing I said was no no this place ain't for me, better use guru forums.

- Ganni

cyberjanet · Oct 24, 2007, 06:35 AM // 06:35

Ha ha, this would be funny if it weren't so self-serving. Shortest memories in the world! I remember how upset people were when the Wiki banished builds, so upset that the PVXWiki was started to replace it.

Of course I use PVXWiki builds. I may not stick with the build, but I'll certainly try it. I'm not such an idiot that I refuse to learn from other people.

I'm a very good cook. That doesn't mean I don't consult recipe books or chat with other people who cook to get their ideas and input.

Ivan Aidrann · Oct 24, 2007, 06:40 AM // 06:40

I often use a build from pvxwiki for farming, and usually slightly change it to fit my taste. Thats pretty much it though. Have made a few farming builds of my own, none very successful, at least not compared to some given on wiki

Have tried a build or two for general pve, but i find that i need to use something i built myself. For comfortability, since i basically use a different build for each area i go to.

Besides... cookie-cutting... grr

-Pluto- · Oct 24, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by unienaule

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warskull

PvX Wiki is full of terrible builds. I prefer to use effective builds.

What he said.

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blue.rellik · Oct 24, 2007, 07:06 AM // 07:06

I look at them for the foundation for skillbars of professions I don't play much, ie anything that is not a Warrior, Necromancer or Elementalist

Hyper.nl · Oct 24, 2007, 07:08 AM // 07:08

Yeah, I use PvXwiki a lot.

I use it for the hero builds because I'm not too familiar with build of other professions. Also, I've been using PvXwiki as source of idea's to get a better synergy of the skills I use. The wiki simply has inventive combinations that I would not have thought of myself.

Avarre · Oct 24, 2007, 07:14 AM // 07:14

I like using skillbars that work, so I tend to stay away from PvX.

bungusmaximus · Oct 24, 2007, 08:00 AM // 08:00

I usually have guru for help on builds, why look at wiki when there's people here that alweays want to help out?

Surena · Oct 24, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01

I always steal yesitsrob's builds.

arsie · Oct 24, 2007, 08:05 AM // 08:05

While many builds there are a little obsolete or not as efficient, I think they are useful for new players and people playing a new profession.

Anyone with an understanding of the game will know quite quickly if a build works or not, and will be able to modify them to their own playing style.

Efficient or not, some of the quirky builds can be fun to play for a while, in a "i didn't think of that..." way.

Builds seen in some threads here are definitely more current (to the nerfs) and efficient, but still, I seldom use any build wholesale. Play style > absolute efficiency.

SotiCoto · Oct 24, 2007, 08:08 AM // 08:08

I will look up builds on PvX wiki occasionally when I don't have anything better to use.... but I ALWAYS end up making improvements to the build posted.

Carinae · Oct 24, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

I will look up builds on PvX wiki occasionally when I don't have anything better to use.... but I ALWAYS end up making improvements to the build posted.

Ditto. But PvX is a good starting point for builds that are outside of your area of expertise.

Etta · Oct 24, 2007, 08:25 AM // 08:25

^ Yeah. I've never play a Dervish or a Ritualist but sometime I fanncy bringing Razah/Xandra or Kahmu/Melonni when I play, then I would look up PVX for their basic build. But then I would ask my guildies who plays those classes to see what they think of the builds and such.

Komes I · Oct 24, 2007, 09:55 AM // 09:55

I couldnt bother more than to make builds on my own. I mean it maybe fun for some of you guys but i just FAIL at it because i once made a build (February 2006 15 days of playing) for R/Me and some of the skills were: Power Shot, Distracting Shot, Conjure Phatasm, Eather Fest and Backfire. Could have i done it more wrong?

Steboy93 · Oct 24, 2007, 09:57 AM // 09:57

I use then for farming occasionally but i prefer to look on guru.

fujin · Oct 24, 2007, 09:58 AM // 09:58

For General PvE builds, I go there so I can get a general idea of what I'd like to use, and change the skills to suit my style.

Farming I use their builds sometimes...

Heroes... I'm not really an expert on taking advantage of the AI so I use it :P

Running... Very rare for me to use it...

PvP, I use slightly different bars from the ones posted there. Like my own version of a B-Surge Ele :P

Auron of Neon · Oct 24, 2007, 10:06 AM // 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by SotiCoto

I will look up builds on PvX wiki occasionally when I don't have anything better to use.... but I ALWAYS end up making improvements to the build posted.

Like adding blood magic to a standard burst sin bar? :P

But srsly, it's always good for a laugh, which I guess would be C.